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View from the top: Urs Eberhard

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For 24 years, Urs Eberhard has marketed Switzerland to the world. He now finds the traditional markets he’s worked hard to build crumbling before his eyes as Europe deals with a mountain of debt. But, tough as the Matterhorn, Eberhard hikes up to explore new peaks. He talks to Raini Hamdi about the role of NTOs in distressing times

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Urs Eberhard
Executive vice president-markets & meetings
Switzerland Tourism

How badly is the eurozone debt crisis affecting the Swiss tourism industry?
We’ve lost quite a substantial number of overnights, thereby quite a substantial amount of income from the whole euro market – Germany, Holland, Belgium, Italy, France, the UK, etc.

In the last five years, we lost almost 20 per cent from Germany, 30 per cent from the UK; in absolute figures that translates to millions of overnights and millions of Swiss francs lost.

How many millions?
In total, from the traditional markets, looking back five years, we lost nearly half a billion Swiss francs, about CHF470 million (US$482 million), in income.

On the other hand, we are gaining an enormous amount of new visitors from markets like China, India, South-east Asia, (South) Korea, Australia, Russia and also markets in eastern Europe, the Baltics, Nordic countries, etc. Through the increase, we made an extra of over CHF300 million in the last five years.

If there wasn’t the debt crisis, could you have accommodated such increases from the new markets?
Yes. The yearly average occupancy of Swiss hotels is less than 50 per cent. Of course, during summer vacation, Christmas, New Year, Luzern is full, but hotels in the back valleys are not full. Or the winter resorts aren’t full in summer, while the summer resorts are not full in winter, so if you average it all out, it works out to less than 50 per cent occupancy on an annual basis.

But the issue is, the new markets go to only 10 to 20 per cent of the destinations in the country – certain icons or must-sees like Luzern and Interlaken – so the growth is concentrated on only a few hotspots, while the loss from the traditional markets is spread throughout since these markets have been coming to Switzerland for the last 100-150 years and visit all places throughout the year. Therefore, our strategy, as a national tourist office, is really to diversify and spread the growth of the new markets.

But this is not so easily achieved. If you travel to Paris, you want to see the Eiffel Tower. As a first-time traveller to Switzerland, you’d want to see Luzern, the Jungfrau, and we must understand that. But we need to encourage second-time travellers from new markets, or those who seek a deeper or mono-European tour, to go to new routes.

This is why we’re really trying to give new itineraries and ideas to tour operators and ground operators, so they feature both the hotspots and creative themes, say, honeymoons, multi-generation travel, soft adventure, snow and ski, train travel. By doing this, we hope people will spend two or three nights in Switzerland.

Is the length of stay so short – only a night?
Yes, as you know, once a market opens to overseas travel, it’s always the series groups after business travel and official visits, and these first-time travellers want to see eight countries in 10 days.

It’s the same when the Americans, English, Russians started travelling. And for the first-time series, it’s always the hotspots first that they want to see, London, Paris, Venice, Luzern – in the old days, it’s called the grand tour and heaven forbid we change that.

But once they start to return, that’s when we must make sure the tour operator is offering something different. That’s why we are working with them to create new ideas, like the best of Switzerland, discover Switzerland as a mono-destination, or instead of eight European countries, why not just three nights in Italy, Switzerland and France and explore them deeper. And we show them how and what they can do.

Are you still seeing growth from Asia, despite signs of the Chinese and Indian economies slowing?
Asia is still growing – and on an extremely successful 2011. In the first six months, China grew 24 per cent, South-east Asia 15 per cent, Australia almost 10 per cent, India, Japan, South Korea 10 per cent each. There are warning signs – India’s going to be a bit difficult we understand. The Olympics in London, from what we hear, kept Asians away due to tight flight capacity and higher pricing. So we’re expecting that July and August results might be weaker.

You’ve been marketing Switzerland since 1998 and helped shape the product and the markets for it throughout those 24 years. You must have encountered crises. How are these times different?
If I look back on such a long time, the industry is cyclical indeed. The difference is, the crisis we have today has never been so widespread; it touches the whole of Europe in such a dramatic way.

The most dramatic crisis I could think of was when I was based in the UK. In 1993/1994, it was really deep in the oil crisis and hurt the market terribly. We had to counter the situation when we lost 50 per cent of the business. We had to see what could we do to bring back the Brits to Switzerland, and we started to explore, as we do now in Asia, new opportunities where we had a competitive advantage.

We started with the young snowboarders of the UK; we organised a snowboard championship in Covent Garden, which attracted 100,000 spectators and lots of TV coverage and, all of a sudden, we were able to change the image of Switzerland as being this old, traditional destination for old people into a fun, young, new destination.

We were so lucky as there was a lot of snow in Switzerland, the UK economy went up again, and this was the turning point. From then on, the market went up again for the next 10 years and we more than doubled the number of UK visitors from 2008 with not just the old demand, but the new demand from the younger travellers.

There’s always something good in adversities, isn’t there?
Yes, you become more creative, you don’t take things for granted, you can’t allow yourself to be lazy and wait like a fat cat in front of a mouse hole. You have to get up and find the mouse holes.

But the difference with this crisis, as you said, is it’s so widespread. Does that make you a nervous cat despite having gone through the UK crisis?
It makes us very nervous. It does worry us tremendously because there is not a lot you can do. You cannot make the country 30 per cent cheaper and they will come. As the French saying goes, ‘you cannot make a donkey drink when he’s not thirsty’.

What we’ve realised is that all the new customers in the traditional markets – i.e., the customers who desired to go to Switzerland once – have dropped out because of the poor economic situation. The ones that are still coming are the loyal customers who know the product, know they get a lot of value from being in Switzerland and feel at ease in the country. Our strategy is to work on that loyal base and cut back efforts a little bit on targeting new customers. If we do target new customers, we go about it in a focused way.

In the UK, for instance, we work with the Royal Horticultural Society. They have 350,000 members; they all love gardens. So we go to them and say hey we have beautiful alpine gardens, islands like Brissago with beautiful gardens, and if you are interested in receiving more information, we will send you some Edelweiss seeds. The interest we got was incredible. We then built an alpine garden at the Hampton flower show, worked with tour operators on introducing special garden tours and invited a few media members to write about these tours, so once again it’s a very integrated approach and very focused.

So niche marketing is the way to go now.
At the moment, you have to go niche. If we do the big ads in the paper saying ‘Switzerland is beautiful, come to Switzerland’, it will not work because the donkey is not thirsty. But if we go to the niche, where the donkey is thirsty for a special beverage, we have a chance he will drink.

Is that the biggest challenge for NTOs such as yourself?
The challenge for NTOs is that the industry is looking at you to promote the whole country, but the customer does not want a whole-country sell. He wants specific recommendations that suit his needs from a neutral, trustworthy source. So we’re caught between the expectations of the industry and expectations of the client.

Both are our customers, but it’s a fine line to fulfil the demands of the industry and still give the end-consumer a decent answer, especially now, when the industry has become more accountable for its spending and has become impatient to see results (60 per cent of Switzerland Tourism’s funding is from the government, 40 per cent from the industry). This impatience may result in industry partners going their own way (in marketing) and we may lose the strong umbrella approach we now have, which I’m absolutely convinced is the most effective approach.

Also, a lot of our partners are financed by the number of visitors they get and fewer visitors mean less spending.

What keeps you going?
The product keeps me going. I would not have the same emotional ties if I were to sell a machine! And I’m fortunate to sell a country like Switzerland.

The whole travel industry is also a people business and I can look back to all my postings and all the friends I’ve make – it’s a sense that you’ve left a footprint in the markets with your work.

What are you proudest of to date?
The turnaround in the UK is something I’m very proud of.

I also find it most rewarding that we are able to bring most of the partners under one umbrella to promote Switzerland as a country and not have split groups doing their own things, which will dilute the message. The Swiss government, too, trusts us and has been giving us more funding each four-year period in the last 12 years, even for 2012-2015, despite the difficult times we’re in.

This article was first published in TTG Asia, August 24, 2012, on page 8. To read more, please view our digital edition or click here to subscribe.

The Russians are coming

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RUSSIA and the CIS countries are emerging as hot markets for MICE into India even as longhaul sources such as the US and UK have slowed or stabilised.

Alpcord Network Travel & Conference Management Company managing director, Chander Mansharamani, said despite there not being any promotional activity on the MICE front in Russia thus far, numbers had been on the rise.

“The Ministry of Tourism is conducting its regular roadshow in Russia in September and for the first time, there will be a MICE component. We’re expecting 18 to 20 Indian participants.

“India is a new destination for the Russians and we’re getting small meetings at the moment. These are from the pharmaceutical, power and IT sectors and they are spread out to Mumbai, Delhi and Kolkata,” he said.

Mansharamani added that he had seen about five per cent growth from the market this year, which could climb to 10-15 per cent next year.

Travelite (India) director-business development, Amrita Ahluwalia, said the DMC used to depend on the “wow market” of the US for incentives, but was now focusing on Russia and the CIS countries, as well as the Middle East and South America.

She surmised that the Russian market was growing by 20 per cent year-on-year.

“I have a feeling that the US will become a thing of the past,” said Ahluwalia. “The value of the US market is decreasing; same for the UK. Clients used to commonly ask for palace hotels and villas, but are now exploring even three-star options.”

Mansharamani said while he had not seen much of an impact on meetings from the West, budgets had been affected, with clients booking hotels that were one level lower, such as a five-star instead of a five-star deluxe.

Read more in TTG Show Daily – IT&CM India 2012

Additional reporting by: Linda Haden

Busan CVB restructures

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FROM November 1, the Greater Busan CVB will come under a new umbrella tourism body that will look at nurturing conventions, incentives and leisure groups for South Korea’s second-largest city.

Speaking to the Daily, Greater Busan CVB manager, tourism marketing, June Kim, said the Busan Tourism Organization (its working name for now), would act as a “control tower” for all things related to tourism including marketing and development.

“The mayor sees the MICE industry as a key driver of economic growth for Busan, and with this change, we will see a centralisation of efforts and less wastage of funds,” she said, adding that suppliers and trade associations now held their own promotions.

Busan Metropolitan City exhibition and convention division deputy director, Ha Young Ho, pointed out that this would also mean Busan growing its presence at international tradeshows independent of the Korea Tourism Organization, such as its participation at IT&CM India. While it only has a booth in this inaugural edition of the show, the intentions are for a standalone pavilion next year.

He said: “We see potential in the Indian market because it is so big. Both Busan and India are also strong in IT, so there is an opportunity to tap that area for meetings and incentives.”

Read more in TTG Show Daily – IT&CM India 2012

Sellers toss in value-adds

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TO counter the effects of the sliding Indian rupee in a price-sensitive Indian market, some sellers at IT&CM India are tossing in value-adds to stimulate MICE business from India.

Most of these value-adds help to reduce the cost of pre- and post-show programmes.

For instance, The Puteri Pacific Johor Bahru, Malaysia is promoting a US$100 value-added package that twins Singapore with the southern Malaysian city. The deal, valid till mid-September, includes a night’s stay with breakfast at the hotel, entrance tickets to Universal Studios Singapore and two-way transfers.

Indian delegates extending their stay in Hong Kong with their family can take advantage of a Sky100 Hong Kong Observation Deck promotion – valid till next month – which offers free entrance to a child for every two adult tickets purchased. The attraction’s managing director, Josephine Lam, said she would be meeting with an Air India representative and Indian outbound specialists at this show to develop special packages.

In Indonesia, Samabe Bali Resort & Villas and Grand Mirage Resort Thalasso Bali are offering Indian clients a stay-three-pay-two promotion till October 2013. Ralf Luthe, general manager of Samabe Leisure Hospitality Group, which manages the two hotels, hopes the promotion will attract more incentive groups from India.

Luthe noted that with weaker buying power, fewer Indian clients were buying optional programmes such as spa treatments. “Indians are also seeking savings by eating in restaurants outside the hotels,” he added.

Indian MICE buyers told the Daily that most Asian sellers have been supportive, sweetening deals with complimentary VIP lounge access, late check-outs, room upgrades and flexible cancellation policies.

Travel Tours Group vice-president, Joseph K Jose, said Asian DMCs had been willing to renegotiate and offer value-adds such as shopping vouchers.

Read more in TTG Show Daily – IT&CM India 2012

Indians all out of love for Western Europe

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INDIAN travel firms have fallen out of love with Western Europe, with unfavourable currency exchange rates, new taxes and airfare hikes making this once sought-after destination increasingly untenable.

Kunal Sawhny, vice president – business development, Blue Moon Travels has seen the volume of Indian clients headed to Western Europe plunge by 30 per cent in the past 12 months.

He said: “More and more companies are watching the pennies since the softening of the rupee in the last year. Some are looking to alternative, less expensive destinations in Eastern Europe, such as the Czech Republic, which offers corporate clients something different, while others choose not to hold MICE programmes in Europe altogether. They decide to host an event domestically or in regional destinations such as Thailand and Singapore, which are relatively less expensive.”

New service taxes introduced on July 1, which impose an additional 4.994 per cent administration fee whenever an airline reservation or change to an airline booking is made, have also served to curb demand among Indian firms for Western Europe, particularly for incentive programmes.

Classis Travel & Tour’s director, Rajendra Dhumma, said: “With airfares to Western Europe costing around US$1,000 to US$1,200 at one go, these extra taxes can really pile up, making companies think twice about holding an event in Western Europe.”

Meanwhile, airfares in India have been creeping upwards, driven by escalating fuel costs. Based on national news reports, airfares in India have risen by 30 to 40 per cent in the last six months. “These airfare hikes have hurt our India to Western Europe business, which dropped by 10 per cent in the last year,” said Dhumma.

As these debilitating factors continue to take their toll, India to Western Europe MICE traffic is anticipated to fall further in the coming months.

“Looking at the faltering Indian and global economy, we can assume that traffic from India to Western Europe will see little chance of an uplift in 2013. However, the situation might change if airfares dropped and currency exchange rates improved,” said Mitesh Dani, director, Parul Tours & Travel.

Air Astana hikes Almaty-Delhi services

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AIR Astana has bumped up the frequency of its Almaty-New Delhi flights, in response to growing demand fuelled by greater trade and financial co-operation between Kazakhstan and India.

Now available once a day except on Thursdays and Saturdays, the three-hour, 45-minute flights will continue to be serviced by Airbus A320 aircraft in a 148-seat, two-class configuration.

“Business and leisure traffic between Kazakhstan and India has continued to grow strongly in recent years, and Air Astana is delighted to respond by providing extra services to Delhi,” said Ibrahim Canliel, vice president of sales & marketing at Air Astana.

Air Astana is offering return economy airfares from Almaty to Delhi starting from US$337 per pax, including taxes, while a business-class return ticket costs at least US$1,308, taxes in.

The Kazakh flag carrier has been running Almaty-Delhi flights since September 4, 2004, and has carried close to 200,00 passengers on the route since.

JAL to deploy Dreamliners on upcoming San Diego, Helsinki flights

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JAPAN Airlines (JAL) is planning to kick-off two new routes using the Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner aircraft, including the world’s first and only nonstop flights between San Diego and Asia, and services to Helsinki in March next year.

The Japan flag carrier is scheduled to commence Tokyo (Narita)-San Diego flights on December 2, 2012. Operated four times a week initially, the service will be boosted to a daily in March 2013.

The second new route, four weekly flights between Tokyo (Narita) and Helsinki, will take off in March 2013. The service will increase to a daily in the middle of financial year 2013.

Meanwhile, JAL is also planning to ramp up frequencies on flights within the region.

The carrier’s Tokyo-Singapore service, operated using the 787-8, will take on another daily frequency from October 28, raising the number of weekly flights on the route from 14 to 21.

Furthermore, frequency on its Narita-New Delhi route will be raised from five to seven flights per week starting October 29, while aircraft servicing the route will be upsized to Boeing 777-200ERs (TTG Asia e-Daily, May 25, 2012).

Suntec Singapore appoints senior directors for sales, operations

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Bibiana Lau (left) and Daniel Ang

SUNTEC Singapore International Convention & Exhibition Centre (Suntec Singapore) has promoted Bibiana Lau to senior director, sales and Daniel Ang to senior director, operations.

Lau joined Suntec Singapore in November 2006 as a senior manager in the Convention & Special Events department. She was promoted to director, sales in June 2011.

Ang joined Suntec Singapore in June 2005 as senior manager, Exhibitions Sales. He was promoted to assistant director, Business Development in July 2009, and promoted to director, operations in June 2011.

Cindy Tan joins TripAdvisor as VP, display advertising sales for Asia-Pacific

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Cindy Tan

TRIPADVISOR has appointed Cindy Tan as vice president of display advertising sales, Asia-Pacific.

Based in Singapore, Tan will lead a team in driving the growth of TripAdvisor’s business in Asia-Pacific, including in China, India and Japan.

Tan brings with her 14 years of experience across various sales, marketing and business development positions in the media industry.

Prior to joining TripAdvisor, she spent seven years at BBC Worldwide, with her last role as regional director for its South-east Asia and China operations.

Marco Polo Hotels promotes May Pendraat to VP, sales & marketing

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May Pendraat

MARCO Polo Hotels has appointed May Pendraat as vice president, sales & marketing.

She was previously area director of marketing for the three Marco Polo hotels in Hong Kong, namely Marco Polo Hongkong Hotel, Gateway Hotel and Prince Hotel.

Prior to joining Marco Polo in 2009, Pendraat worked for Hyatt International Group for two decades, performing in key roles at the Grand Hyatt Hong Kong, Hyatt Regency Perth and Park Hyatt Shanghai.